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OutDrive
12-26-2002, 02:16 PM
Hey all,

I know I am new here, but I have been looking for some place to express my views :D so I thought I would start a new thread that I wished I could have read somewhere in the beginning.

I wanted to get into R/C racing and went to the track a couple of times. Unfortunately, I didn't ask enough questions and went right to a local hobby store to buy the hot set up. I wanted the best I could get, but didn't want to spend any more money than I had to. Also, since I didn't have anything, I needed to buy it all.

Well, again, unfortunately, the guy I talked to at the hobby shop probably knew less about the sport than I did. I proudly walked out with a new Traxxas Street Sport, Futaba Sport radio, and a Super Brain charger. The worst part about all this, I was planning on running oval! Most all hobby shops won't be this way, but try to get a feel for how knowledgable the clerk is who is helping you out!

Well, the guys at the track kind of chuckled when I pulled out the street sport. To give them credit, they did try to help me get it going, but it ended up being a waste of time. Also, the Super Brain burned up the third week I had it and though everything I bought was good for what it was, none of it is serious competition class equipment. I blew $400.00 and wasn't any closer to racing that I was before.

So, the point to all this is, ask questions, then ask more questions! Most of us racer's like to talk about the sport anyway, hence this forum!

Here is what I found out that helped me the most and in order of how it helped me. You Nitro guys may have to alter this somewhat...

Buy the best car you can afford for the type of racing you are going to be doing. In my case (I switched to on road electric), the Associated TC3 is the best for me. It's competitive and durable (face it, your car is gonna be in the wall a lot when you first start out).

Buy the best radio you can afford. I finally give up on my Futaba Sport when I got tired of peeling my FT off the boards due to all the radio glitches and interference. I did not become a serious competitor until I got my M8.

Buy the best electronics you can afford. I kept burning up my "cheapie" servos, but my digital, metal gear servo has paid for itself already in durability. Plus, I benefit from the extra speed and torque. A better speed control is going to give you better control. The lower cost ones tend to be "on and off" versus proportional/

Get the best tires and accessories you can afford. This will take even more time to figure out before you decide what to get, but by now you should be getting to know the guys at the track better and they will be willing to help.

Finally, get that hot motor. I know Big Jim might think this should be number one on the list ;) , but seriously, all that speed and torque aren't going to do you a bit of good when your car is in the pit all day!

Sorry for all the text, but I have been wanting to post my experiences for some time now!

Anyone else have other opinions on "what to buy?"

Thanks,

Cliff

derekjr_1
12-26-2002, 05:24 PM
You are on the right track of stuff to buy, but dont forget. Just because you buy the best stuff doesnt mean you will be the best. Racing takes so much practice and experience to finally get good at it.

Also most of the best stuff from last year can be had for really cheap. Novak c2, airtronics m8, etc can all be purchased relatively cheap when you buy used. A c2 is just as good as a Gt7 and much cheaper for people starting out.

I cant beilive how many times people have asked me what ESC to buy. They start talking brand new dually's, etc and I allways point out they could buy a WAY better ESC for cheaper if they look around for it. So take you time when buying gear, and like you said, ASK QUESTION!!!!! It never hurts to ask..

derekjr_1
12-26-2002, 05:26 PM
Ohh yeah, and sorry you got RIPPED off at that LHS. Most should never take advice from a LHS! They are in business to sell and more then likely they will sell you whatever they have the best markup on, especially if you are a NEWBIE.

Dont get scammed at LHS (except my local track people would be up front, but not my LHS), just as REAL racers with REAL products what to buy,,

All my .02.

OutDrive
12-26-2002, 05:31 PM
Hey Derek,

You're right on. I actually meant to mention that I bought a used Novak Cyclone and the M8 was used too. And you made a good point too...I am by no means the best, but I at least I am a contender now! Funny thing, there is nothing out there, that I know of, that can make me a better driver now. The rest of it is up to me.

What to buy? Passes to the track on practice days! :D

Take care...

OutDrive
12-26-2002, 05:37 PM
Hey again,

I need to mention, I have since found another hobby shop and the people there are great! I have often been talked out of something I wanted to buy because the store manager convinced me I really didn't need it. He is also helpful when I have questions. He's even cut me a few deals along the way.

In other words, I got burnt once and haven't been back. The first guy got my $400.00. The second store has probably taken in 2 grand from me this year and will continue to be my provider of parts and equipment.

Take care...

Thumper
12-26-2002, 08:29 PM
Your first post should be on the "Must Read" list for all newbies, and possibably on the "Must Review" list for the more experianced.

Thanks for posting your comments........it may save another newbie the same heart ache.:)

Thumper:D :D :D

derekjr_1
12-26-2002, 09:56 PM
That is great you found a good LHS! It is so crazy too that gear can only get you to one point and then the rest is up to you. One of the TOP stock drivers at my track has an OLDER tekin ESC from years ago but the guy is so good at driving that it makes up for the lack of equiment. Its crazy!

So if you are WAY awsome at driving you can slack a little more on the equiment if you dont have massive cash flow, otherwise all the tips we've mentioned here are GREAT!

I can still remember when I was a newbie to this stuff and thought that gear was everything. I hung in there and slowing got the best gear but my driving is what makes me a top stock driver at my track. Now that I can FULLY do whatever I like with my cars, the better gear will benefit me and that is what I have.

This is a GREAT forum for people looking to get into this stuff or novices who just need some help. Thanks for starting this up!!!

OutDrive
12-27-2002, 09:42 PM
Hey guys...

I am glad you liked the post. I actually hope it does help keep someone from jumping into a buying spree without getting a bit educated first!

But, I am sure it is not the last mistake I'll ever make ;)

Take care...

bencarbrey
01-01-2003, 02:09 PM
I have a 3000 mAH battery and I was woundering what charger to get, does it matter it the charger says only up to 2400 mAH?

derekjr_1
01-01-2003, 03:24 PM
I would go for oe of the integy chargers! 16x5 if you have a Power Supply, 16x9 or 16x7 if you dont! Those are great chargers and good prices too.

mzenz
01-02-2003, 03:48 AM
If the charger says that it can only charge up to 2400s then that means that it can only charge NiCds. 3000s and 3300s are NiMH, different battery makeup that different charging properties and peak/slope detection. If you're looking for a decent charger, the integy ones should work, or go for a quasar, pulsar, or millenium pro.
** As far as NiMH packs go, i know people that charge them on those Tekin Power Flex chargers without problems, although they say its a hit and miss kind of thing.